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Just a quick note because lack of info. In his letters Nobunaga would refer to his vassals by their titles and not name (with the exception of HIdeyoshi who apprently doesn't have one). A retainer named Mashiru Yasunaga, for example, was referred to in the letter as "Yamashiro no Kami" (lord of Yamashiro?). Akechi Mitsuhide was referred to as "Koretoo Hyuuga no Kami".

But that was letters to other people. What I want to know is how people address each other. And, of course, how Nobu and son call each other. I remember taking note of a letter from Nobunaga, but I don't remember who is it TO. I thought it was to his son, but I may be remembering wrong because I also took note of a letter from his son Nobutaka and I may have mistakenly remembered Nobunaga's letter as a reply letter. Ekh.

DAMMIT THIS IS NOT IMPORTANT. Even Japanese people wouldn't have issues if I wrote names as names, but now that I've stumbled upon this info, I just WANT TO KNOW!!!!!
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I recently read an article that mentioned that in his lifetime there's a good chance that Nobunaga wasn't referred to as "Nobunaga". The website was under construction, so this bit is still labelled "More coming soon". Well, that was interesting. It brought to mind this movie:

(Nobou no Shiro, The Floating Castle)

In the movie, two secondary characters were called "Tanba" and "Nezumi". Except... that wasn't their names. That's their titles. I forgot what their real names were (been too long since I watched it), but they're really Lord of Tanba and Lord of Nezumi.

Which makes me wonder if that half-finished article is true. I mean, in the movie Hideyoshi was never called "Hideyoshi" either. He was "Regent" (Kanpaku?) or "The Monkey". Even records written by his supposed close friend Maeda Toshiie refers to him as the Taiko, not "HIdeyoshi-sama" or whatnot. Does this mean that Nobunaga would be called "Kazusanosuke-sama" instead of "Nobunaga-sama"? Well, that's great. It sucks because I have no idea what titles other people have! GAH. And I know in fiction I can do whatever, considering many movies would go ahead and call the lords by name and not title, but still. I AM A STICKLER SOMETIMES AND IT BUGS ME WHEN I CANNOT FIND THE NECESSARY INFORMATION!

And here's a movie inspiration for the East Asian steampunk theme:

Rant-o-rama )

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