The Oda clan as a family
Oct. 28th, 2013 07:38 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
d_a_renoirSomewhat regretting my decision in choosing Nobuo as the person to explore. I need his childhood and youth to build his "now" character, and I can find jack on it. The only thing I ever hear about him is his fail in Iga and some blah about him participating in random battles. I know this gives me leeway to make up his character however I want, but I want to know to satisfy my own curiousity.
Which, you know, led me to realize just how little resource there is about Nobunaga as a family person. I guess that's why we don't get to see father!Nobunaga a lot because there's little to no info on that. You have depictions of him as a husband to Nouhime, as a lord to his bajillions of vassals, as a conqueror, as an enemy, so on and so forth, but not much between him and his sons.
Maybe I just don't know about them because they come in Japanese and I can't read them, but still. There's a whole bunch of curious tidbits that WERE noted, and it just makes me ask more questions.
Like, say, how Nobunaga supposedly went ballistic over the Iga fail, threatened to disown Nobuo, then... completely forgot about it. Nobuo was still part of the "honor ranks" in the 1580 Sagicho festival. And then waited two more years before launching a counterattack to Iga. So... the Iga thing wasn't as big a deal? Supposedly Nobunaga trampled Iga because the fail was a shame to the family, so why wait two years? I don't understand. Given Nobunaga's previous wars, if this was a big deal, he'd have launched the attack much sooner.
I'm curious mostly because in this era father-children relationship is interesting. When the father is a daimyo, he is both a lord and a father to his children. It makes me wonder what kind of love or affection would there be between them, if there were ever any. Especially considering Nobunaga is a rather eccentric person. You know. His sons don't stay at Honno-ji with him when in Kyoto. They stay at Myokaku-ji. Why? When both Nobuo and Nobutada were there, they both stay at Myokaku-ji, so it's not like each man gets his own temple as quarters.
Which, you know, led me to realize just how little resource there is about Nobunaga as a family person. I guess that's why we don't get to see father!Nobunaga a lot because there's little to no info on that. You have depictions of him as a husband to Nouhime, as a lord to his bajillions of vassals, as a conqueror, as an enemy, so on and so forth, but not much between him and his sons.
Maybe I just don't know about them because they come in Japanese and I can't read them, but still. There's a whole bunch of curious tidbits that WERE noted, and it just makes me ask more questions.
Like, say, how Nobunaga supposedly went ballistic over the Iga fail, threatened to disown Nobuo, then... completely forgot about it. Nobuo was still part of the "honor ranks" in the 1580 Sagicho festival. And then waited two more years before launching a counterattack to Iga. So... the Iga thing wasn't as big a deal? Supposedly Nobunaga trampled Iga because the fail was a shame to the family, so why wait two years? I don't understand. Given Nobunaga's previous wars, if this was a big deal, he'd have launched the attack much sooner.
I'm curious mostly because in this era father-children relationship is interesting. When the father is a daimyo, he is both a lord and a father to his children. It makes me wonder what kind of love or affection would there be between them, if there were ever any. Especially considering Nobunaga is a rather eccentric person. You know. His sons don't stay at Honno-ji with him when in Kyoto. They stay at Myokaku-ji. Why? When both Nobuo and Nobutada were there, they both stay at Myokaku-ji, so it's not like each man gets his own temple as quarters.
